Feedback: the Good, the Great, and the Ugly

(quotes are verbatim, typos and all)

Hey DJ,

Because it never hurts to hear it too much (and just
in case you don't hear it enough), thank fuck you
exist.

(... snip of shipping query...)

Thanks, bro.

Waiting all my life to piss like this,
-K

Ordered the PPP recently and it's pending.  Tried a buddy's and love it. Ordered another just now using paypal with better shipping option.
(...) Thanks!  (2 dicks are better than 1!!)
-B

(now that's friendship, letting your buddy use your PPP! - Elaine)

I got my dick!  Oh man!  Thanks.
-C

I received it  thank you and it works great
-B

I wanted to let you know that I got the pack and pee dick.  It's great. Thanks so much for making it.  It's much larger than any packer I've ever used and I won't be able to use it for one of the main reasons I bought it--to wear when I'm mountain biking with friends.  If I have a dick that big in my shorts people are going to wonder what I find so arousing.  So I was thinking that I would use the technique you've developed to put a hose through one of the smaller packers.  But I can't honestly imagine how you did it with tearing the dick to shreds.  Any chance you'll give me some insight into it?
-S

(Editor's note: We worked out a deal with S to get him a smaller dick.)

Dude,
I ordered one of your devices a year or so ago and while it took me a while to figure it out, mostly the placement and length of tube, once I did my life was changed for the better.
The only problem I had was when the latex deteriorated and I had to replace it. I was unable to find the same size tubing as you used and had to go with a smaller diameter. I found that stretching the tube around the neck of the spoon was better for me because it eliminated back flow and it helped to direct the flow of liquid.
I used to only use the toilet maybe three of four times a day if I could because I hated having to sit to pee. Now I drink water constantly and go as much as I can. I am a big fan of marking my territory. One of my favorite times was pissing on my Jeep tire outside of a gun show in Ohio beside my best friend. (Who is not transsexual) All of my close friends wonder how I came upon this new ability to stand and piss since they are all bio men and have known me since before I began transition. I am much happier now that I am able to participate in bonding ritual of social pissing, a thing without which no man should consider his life complete.
I read on your site that a lot of men had a problem with the size and weight of it. I ordered the larger size and while I was hesitant at first, I saw no profit in not using it because I was afraid to appear to have a huge cock. As for passing, I am a bouncer at a local bar and I hang out with my coworkers and none of them have anything to say about it.
In short, your device is a success and anyone who has anything negative to say about it is probably just afraid to strap on a cock and be a man.
- J

I am very interested in buying a pissin' passin' packer, but would like the 'slighly smaller than average one' at 5" in non-brown. Where do I state this when ordering?
Great site by the way!
-D

It's best to drop Dj. a personal note about what's available.

Then, when you order, put a comment in the "notes" part of the order form. Make sure you use the same email address to correspond and to order, or you become awful hard to track!   -Elaine

I'm a relatively new guy, who finally got tired of using the toilet like a girl. I've been trying to find a STP device that would make using the urinal more comfortable, easier, and with a little more class than the coffee lid or the basic medicine spoon. I think I've found it in the PPP.

I found a couple other sites that advertised pee-able packers. The technology, as one would expect, is similar to the PPP. In my opinion, they are less likely to pass, come in fewer sizes and colors, and yet _more_ expensive than your PPP. From all the hunting I've been able to do, the PPP is a superior piece in every way. I'm looking forward to when I can order my very own PPP. In fact, I'm considering ordering more than one.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for not only coming up with such a genius idea, but for sharing it with the rest of the FTM community. I definitely consider your site one of the first places to send someone looking for a good packer.

-K

 My name is C and my boyfriend, E, ordered your PPP and he absoulty loves it!  He can finally go into the boys bathroom where he finally belongs!  No more of the sitting and peeing for him!  He doesn't know any ftm's besides himself.  So he felt kind of alone for a while until he got enrolled in the gender program in the University of M_. Anyways, I just wanted to write and wish you luck with your business and hope all is going well for you and Elaine.
Best of luck,
-C

Just to confirm that the dick arrived yesterday in perfect condition, and I even managed no spills in attempt no. 5....
Thanks again for faithfully replying to all my mails etc, and for producing that thing in the first place!
-S

I got it last night!!!!
And I love it!!!! (minus the dribble down my leg the first time...it'll take a little practice) ;)
Thank you!!
-L

The PPP was well worth the wait! I LOVE it! I've been searching for the perfect packer and one that could be peed through, and your product more
than meets my expectations!  Thanks a lot. Hope everybody else loves it as much as I do!
-S

here's some feedfack on the P.P.P. i recieved from ya. first of all, i read every page of your site from top to bottom and no where did it say that it's cyberskin--of course i've since found out that the packer yer using is available form grand opening and how to hollow it out to install the piss tube--anyway, i'm disappointed. cyberskin feels great but sucks it bigtime in practical application...
1)if my hands aren't super-clean it absorbs dirt and won't come clean when washed (and when yer blue collar like me, yer hands are never clean until the end of the day--or not even).
2)it's extremely "wearable"--in other words, jack-off more than a couple times (and who doesn't) and it's lookin' more than a bit rough.
3)it's gotta stay really powdered up and not get moist at all, which means if yer girl likes to give you a qwik blow job before work or yer sweatin' yer balls off all day, you've got a sticky mess in yer pants.***this is the most annoying draw-back.
4)it's so spongey that it's almost impossible to get a condom started on it--i took advantage of the hollow center and made a rod i can put in it to make it errect, but it's still so skwishy i can hardly get it into a condom let alone a snatch (i know that's not your intended use, but it's a goal of mine to have a good packer that can be used for everything any bio-boy can do).
anyhoo, that's my two cents. let me know if you find any non-cyberskin packers, 'cause i haven't yet but i would think it's about time there was a really functional alternative to bottom surgery--by the way i didn't see it on your links list, but i think that transster.com is an excellent resourse for ftm references and surgery results. have you seen it?
peace,
-J

This product is not made of cyberskin. It's made of some stuff called , which has its own US patent, and predates cyberskin.

J's got a good point about the wearability, and the dick ships with the instructions that it's going to look new a lot longer if you handle it with clean hands. Dj. works all day in a warehouse, and can empathize. Thing is, the PPP will look more realistic with a certain level of coloration on the shaft, which is where your hands will go when you hold it to pee pee pee.

The PPP ain't a sex toy, except in a pinch. We just can't build all of those functions into one l'il dick. We don't recommend stiffening it with a pole down the middle for fucking. Ouch if it pokes through on either end! Ouch! Ouch!

Thanks for your careful and polite feedback, J

-Elaine

Hey Dj.,
Just wanted to let you know I got my dick. Thanks bunches for getting it to me! I love it!
-S

I ordered and received the Pissin' dick yesterday. Thanks. However, I would just call it the Pissin' dick because its just too huge to pack. I mean its just too big to be comfortable in my briefs. I had ordered the brown regular dick, but did not realize that it would be so big. Anyway, since I cannot return it, I'm just gonna use it to practice the pissing. I just wanted to let you know that I am not completely satisfied with your product.
-S

We're sorry to see anyone unsatisfied, and will do anything we can to help out -- but please, everyone, look carefully at the pictures and measurements before you order! - Elaine

You are such a genius! My gf and I found it amazing! She said I am now sexier than before. And after twice try-&-error, I can pee now! I wait for that for 10 years after I learn for packing. I am from Hongkong, no one there talk about packing, even F2M, i feel lonely before I met your site. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart!
- N

Got it!   And it works friggen great... thank you!
-S

I just got through mass emailing every transman group I belong to, warning them not to buy your packer.  What a waste of money!  The damn thing is ten inches long and weighs ten pounds, plus there's that bulky tube sticking out of the back and there is no way to attach it to keep it from being upside down all day or falling out through your boxer legs.  What a ripoff!  Who wants to have a whole football down the front of their trousers?  I can't believe I waited all these weeks AND wasted my money on that worthless device.
- Munir

We'd like to rebut on this one:

The PPP weighs 11 ounces (it says so on the site). There are photographs, on site, of the PPP in Dj.'s hand, in Dj.'s underwear, in Elaine's hand (for scale), and alone beside a ruler. It's about 6-1/2 inches in length. We know that might be too big for some folks, so smaller sizes are available.

The tube is needed so you don't pee in your underwear, and in the instructions that come wrapped around the dick, we state how you should trim the tube to size, since we have no way of knowing what size you are and how long you need it to be.

Packing in boxers? In the FAQ, we say this:

       Dj. says to remind you all that briefs are best, since the Pissin' Passin' Packer will try to escape from boxers. Jock straps work fine, but steer away from incredibly skinny-thonged little posing pouches unless you're the gambling type.

(For the rest of y'all: There's a dick-holding jock thing that you can make yourself here.)

And, as for posting your hyperbole to every FtM group you could find, instead of talking to us first, or asking us to help in any way?

Thanks, Munir. Sales went up right away. And we're sorry about your reading comprehension troubles.

RTFM.

-Elaine

I just got the P.P.P a couple weeks ago in the mail, and I've been very excited to use it! Due to a certain knee injury I have it's been a bit tricky to balance it out while trying to get situated so practicing took quite a while, and for a few days I got burnt out. But everything's in good condition and I've been pullin' it off like a pro now, right through my fly! It's wonderful, and I can't thank you enough for making such a great product!

As for M's feedback... Not only is he great at over exaggeration but I think it was a bit ridiculous to mail every FTM group he could find, discouraging them of this info. I've found this packer to work EXCELLENTLY, and if it doesn't work for him, then he's probably using it wrong. Personally if someone discouraged ME of getting it and later I somehow found that it would have worked as well as it does for me or anyone else I would have been furious. I suggest everyone who's really interested should try it for their own experience, it is indeed nearly 40 bucks but that's really not too bad, especially if it works!

I found the packer to be light, soft, easy to pack and very comfortable. The generic size was perfect for me personally. I read through the entire site up and down, stuffed a sock similarly to the one shown in the site making it the similar size of the P.P.P to see how I thought it would fit. I was very cautious considering it is a fair amount of money to get something that might not work, but it's silly for anyone to place the blame on you guys if it doesn't.

Also this product has been a frickin' blessing since the past 7 months I've been packing with a semi-stiff 7.5" pack-and-play. Yeah... Like DJ said, something meant to play with can bruize the boi parts. Man do I know that! Plus I think the worst feeling is having to take your dick off to pee. But ya do what ya can till ya find something perfect- or at least close to it, and I'd have to say... I think the P.P.P is beyond perfect!

Thanks again, DJ and Elaine!

-L

Man you're awesome.  I just spent my whole summer driving around this country looking like a 14 year old boy who still had to use the damn stall to pee and try to look cool at the same time......life is hard but easier with a urinal....
thanks,
-K

great website Dj. Very imformative and well put together. I am very happy to see guys of color on the net, esp. guys like us. God, your hot!
That's all. :)
-I

I had to put this up to make Dj. blush. [grin] -- Elaine

It's good, thanks.  It took me a while to get used to the medicine spoon. I've never had success with that before now.  The rest of it is excellent.
Thanks again.
-S

-D

 

Got my pissin' passin' packer yesterday ! And it's awsome! DJ you rock !!

-J

Hey there....I didn't know you had a feedback page. I just read it and I can't believe that yoyo who emailed everyone and told them not to buy it and that it was too big. I bought the large one and it fits just fine..matter of fact it is quite snuggy and I LOVE it. I can proudly say that my toilet seat is always up in my apartment thanks to your product. About damned time! Thanks again for your fantastic product. I will be ordering another soon as I am sure I will wear this one out before long.

-D from NYC

I just got mine today.. thanks re the size issue! This is perfect!! I love it! Tried it out immediately... and it took a minute , but this is nice!!! I can not wait to try it out when at school then tomorrow!!   I appreciate the guide care book too! It helped re care, and sizing! I will be ordering replacements as needed!
I wish I knew of this service so much sooner!! Thanks!
- D

Just to say I have recieved my pisser/packer and am very happy with my new dick! I will be recommending you on FTM sites.
Cheers
- B

Got my PNP today and I have to say - as I suspected I would - I LOVE IT!! I will recommend this product to all the guys I know all over the country. This baby is a MUCH needed answer to my prayers.
I have been traumatized about the bathroom experience for far to long - your product brings sanity to my life man. FINALLY! I'm not up to hanging with the others dudes at the urinal yet - but just being able to stand facing the right direction making the right sounds from a stall makes me a new man.
- R

Yo DJ.
You the MAN!!!!!! you are heaven sent. My dick is off the chain. I even sleep with. you have answered one of my prayers man...Please don't go I out business! my fiance loves it. you are the best :) I'm going to get another soon.
- D